I rang my life assurance company today, asking them for the address of the part of their organisation where I should send my queries concerning commission payments made on my endowment policy.
You will recall that, despite the fact that I have already raised these queries with their central "help" centre, their "help" centre was unable to answer them.
One reason being that another branch deals with these queries.
Oddly enough the "help" centre did not forward my queries; nor indeed did it provide me with an address, of this branch, in their letter.
I asked why they did not forward the queries, my "help" centre operative did not know; and said it would have been more "helpful".
I asked why they couldn't just forward my queries, now that I have raised the matter again; he answered that he couldn't, as my original letter was "in another department".
Notwithstanding their obstructive attitude, I have now acquired the "correct" address; and have resent my original letter of the 12th November to this address.
We shall see what happens!
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Tuesday, November 30, 2004
Friday, November 26, 2004
Obstructive Unhelpful Delaying Tactics
You will recall that, on the 12th of November, I sent my life assurance company a letter asking about commission payments made from my two endowment policies.
Here is the letter that I sent:
"Dear Sir/Madam,
Endowment Policies (numbers **** and ****)
I have a number of queries concerning my two endowment policies (numbers **** and ***), which you manage on my behalf.
Please can you answer the following queries in respect of the above policies:
1. Please can you advise me as to how much commission has been paid to any third party, or connected party, at the time the policies were taken out?
2. Please can you advise me of the names of the companies to which commission payments have been made, in respect of these policies?
3. Please can you advise me if commission payments have been made, at dates other than at the commencement of the policies?
4. If so please can you quantify the amounts, the frequency and the organisations to which these additional commission payments have been/are being made?
5. Please can you advise me if the commission payments referred to in questions 1- 4 above were deducted directly from my policy payments, or have been charged indirectly?
6. If commission payments are still being made on my policies, please can you advise me as to why?
7. Do I have the right to stop these ongoing commission payments?
8. If I have the right to stop these ongoing commission payments, please can you explain as to why you have not drawn this to my attention before?
9. Please can you provide me with an estimate as to negative impact, on the final expected maturity value of my policies, which these payments have had?
Please feel free to contact me if you need clarification of the above.
Thank you in advance for your prompt co-operation.
Yours faithfully..."
Today I received their response; which, not to put too fine a point on it, I regard as obstructive and unhelpful.
Here is their response:
"Thanks you for your letter of 11 November, asking how much commission is being paid monthly to the adviser.
The policy *** was sold by **, direct sales office, South London branch. If you have any queries concerning the sale of these policies please contact us at the above address (note they do not supply the address in the letter, they are the same company why not just pass my letter on?).
You took out plan (**) before 1 January 1995, when the current commission disclosure rules came into force. I cannot give you details of the commission paid to the selling agent without the agent's permission in writing. In order to obtain the commission information therefore, we suggest that you contact your adviser direct (it is my money, yet they will not tell me how much they are taking!).
...."
I will follow this up.
I do not consider that their response has been at all helpful; it leaves me to wonder precisely what they are hiding.
You will recall that, on the 12th of November, I sent my life assurance company a letter asking about commission payments made from my two endowment policies.
Here is the letter that I sent:
"Dear Sir/Madam,
Endowment Policies (numbers **** and ****)
I have a number of queries concerning my two endowment policies (numbers **** and ***), which you manage on my behalf.
Please can you answer the following queries in respect of the above policies:
1. Please can you advise me as to how much commission has been paid to any third party, or connected party, at the time the policies were taken out?
2. Please can you advise me of the names of the companies to which commission payments have been made, in respect of these policies?
3. Please can you advise me if commission payments have been made, at dates other than at the commencement of the policies?
4. If so please can you quantify the amounts, the frequency and the organisations to which these additional commission payments have been/are being made?
5. Please can you advise me if the commission payments referred to in questions 1- 4 above were deducted directly from my policy payments, or have been charged indirectly?
6. If commission payments are still being made on my policies, please can you advise me as to why?
7. Do I have the right to stop these ongoing commission payments?
8. If I have the right to stop these ongoing commission payments, please can you explain as to why you have not drawn this to my attention before?
9. Please can you provide me with an estimate as to negative impact, on the final expected maturity value of my policies, which these payments have had?
Please feel free to contact me if you need clarification of the above.
Thank you in advance for your prompt co-operation.
Yours faithfully..."
Today I received their response; which, not to put too fine a point on it, I regard as obstructive and unhelpful.
Here is their response:
"Thanks you for your letter of 11 November, asking how much commission is being paid monthly to the adviser.
The policy *** was sold by **, direct sales office, South London branch. If you have any queries concerning the sale of these policies please contact us at the above address (note they do not supply the address in the letter, they are the same company why not just pass my letter on?).
You took out plan (**) before 1 January 1995, when the current commission disclosure rules came into force. I cannot give you details of the commission paid to the selling agent without the agent's permission in writing. In order to obtain the commission information therefore, we suggest that you contact your adviser direct (it is my money, yet they will not tell me how much they are taking!).
...."
I will follow this up.
I do not consider that their response has been at all helpful; it leaves me to wonder precisely what they are hiding.
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Monday, November 22, 2004
Ambulance Chasers?
It seems that some of the companies that handle endowment complaints, have incurred the ire of the life assurance companies.
Norwich Union is reportedly asking for endowment complaint handlers to be regulated by the FSA, to protect consumers.
It seems that some complaints firms target people living on estates built in the late 1980s and early 1990s. This was the time when many endowment policies were sold.
Norwich Union believes that these companies should operate under the same rules, and regulations, as the life assurance companies; thus levelling the playing field.
One particular reason that the life assurance companies are irked by complaint handlers, is the fact that nearly one fifth of the complaints that they (the life assurance companies) have to deal with emanate from professional complaint handlers.
The cost to the consumer of using these firms can be 25%, or more, of any compensation won. The cost of using the Financial Ombudsman is zero.
It seems that some of the companies that handle endowment complaints, have incurred the ire of the life assurance companies.
Norwich Union is reportedly asking for endowment complaint handlers to be regulated by the FSA, to protect consumers.
It seems that some complaints firms target people living on estates built in the late 1980s and early 1990s. This was the time when many endowment policies were sold.
Norwich Union believes that these companies should operate under the same rules, and regulations, as the life assurance companies; thus levelling the playing field.
One particular reason that the life assurance companies are irked by complaint handlers, is the fact that nearly one fifth of the complaints that they (the life assurance companies) have to deal with emanate from professional complaint handlers.
The cost to the consumer of using these firms can be 25%, or more, of any compensation won. The cost of using the Financial Ombudsman is zero.
Monday, November 15, 2004
Too Lazy To Claim
It seems that, according to Mori, millions of people that may have been mis-sold an endowment mortgage have not lodged a claim for compensation; and have no intention of doing so.
When it comes to matters of finance, it seems that the British people are "asleep at the wheel".
Wake Up!!
It seems that, according to Mori, millions of people that may have been mis-sold an endowment mortgage have not lodged a claim for compensation; and have no intention of doing so.
When it comes to matters of finance, it seems that the British people are "asleep at the wheel".
Wake Up!!
Friday, November 12, 2004
Digging for Dirt
I have finally drafted a letter, to my endowment policy company, which outlines my queries in respect of commission payments that may have been deducted from my two endowment policies.
I will post their response, as and when I receive one.
Here is an extract:
"..Dear Sir/Madam,
Endowment Policies (numbers **** and ****)
I have a number of queries concerning my two endowment policies (numbers **** and ***), which you manage on my behalf.
Please can you answer the following queries in respect of the above policies:
1. Please can you advise me as to how much commission has been paid to any third party, or connected party, at the time the policies were taken out?
2. Please can you advise me of the names of the companies to which commission payments have been made, in respect of these policies?
3. Please can you advise me if commission payments have been made, at dates other than at the commencement of the policies?
4. If so please can you quantify the amounts, the frequency and the organisations to which these additional commission payments have been/are being made?
5. Please can you advise me if the commission payments referred to in questions 1- 4 above were deducted directly from my policy payments, or have been charged indirectly?
6. If commission payments are still being made on my policies, please can you advise me as to why?
7. Do I have the right to stop these ongoing commission payments?
8. If I have the right to stop these ongoing commission payments, please can you explain as to why you have not drawn this to my attention before?
9. Please can you provide me with an estimate as to negative impact, on the final expected maturity value of my policies, which these payments have had?
Please feel free to contact me if you need clarification of the above.
Thank you in advance for your prompt co-operation.
Yours faithfully..."
I have finally drafted a letter, to my endowment policy company, which outlines my queries in respect of commission payments that may have been deducted from my two endowment policies.
I will post their response, as and when I receive one.
Here is an extract:
"..Dear Sir/Madam,
Endowment Policies (numbers **** and ****)
I have a number of queries concerning my two endowment policies (numbers **** and ***), which you manage on my behalf.
Please can you answer the following queries in respect of the above policies:
1. Please can you advise me as to how much commission has been paid to any third party, or connected party, at the time the policies were taken out?
2. Please can you advise me of the names of the companies to which commission payments have been made, in respect of these policies?
3. Please can you advise me if commission payments have been made, at dates other than at the commencement of the policies?
4. If so please can you quantify the amounts, the frequency and the organisations to which these additional commission payments have been/are being made?
5. Please can you advise me if the commission payments referred to in questions 1- 4 above were deducted directly from my policy payments, or have been charged indirectly?
6. If commission payments are still being made on my policies, please can you advise me as to why?
7. Do I have the right to stop these ongoing commission payments?
8. If I have the right to stop these ongoing commission payments, please can you explain as to why you have not drawn this to my attention before?
9. Please can you provide me with an estimate as to negative impact, on the final expected maturity value of my policies, which these payments have had?
Please feel free to contact me if you need clarification of the above.
Thank you in advance for your prompt co-operation.
Yours faithfully..."
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Tuesday, November 09, 2004
Renewal Commissions
I received an interesting email from the Consumers' Association, in respect of my earlier post on "Secret Commission Payments".
It seems that these payments, also called renewal commissions, are quite common. The Consumers' Association believe that they should be stopped.
Indeed the Treasury Select Committee are also of the same mind.
Their cross examination of some of the representatives of the endowment industry, in January 2004, makes amusing reading; as they make the endowment people squirm, as they try to justify these payments.
You can read the minutes here.
I received an interesting email from the Consumers' Association, in respect of my earlier post on "Secret Commission Payments".
It seems that these payments, also called renewal commissions, are quite common. The Consumers' Association believe that they should be stopped.
Indeed the Treasury Select Committee are also of the same mind.
Their cross examination of some of the representatives of the endowment industry, in January 2004, makes amusing reading; as they make the endowment people squirm, as they try to justify these payments.
You can read the minutes here.
Saturday, November 06, 2004
The New FSA Regime
The Financial Services Authority (FSA) now regulates the mortgage market.
The theory being that the scandals of the past, ie the endowment mis-selling scandal, will be avoided in the future.
However, regulation comes at a price; especially when the FSA is involved.
It is reported that there have been quite a few teething troubles with the new regime.
It seems that many mortgage brokers have not received their firm's mortgage authorisation number, which is provided by the FSA.
Some lenders have experienced problems with their IT systems, and consequently have not produced documents on line.
Others have refused to provide certain documents, as they believe that this will breach the Data Protection Act.
It is estimated that the cost of the new regime, £100 per application, will be placed fairly and squarely on the shoulders of the consumer.
That's you and me folks!
The Financial Services Authority (FSA) now regulates the mortgage market.
The theory being that the scandals of the past, ie the endowment mis-selling scandal, will be avoided in the future.
However, regulation comes at a price; especially when the FSA is involved.
It is reported that there have been quite a few teething troubles with the new regime.
It seems that many mortgage brokers have not received their firm's mortgage authorisation number, which is provided by the FSA.
Some lenders have experienced problems with their IT systems, and consequently have not produced documents on line.
Others have refused to provide certain documents, as they believe that this will breach the Data Protection Act.
It is estimated that the cost of the new regime, £100 per application, will be placed fairly and squarely on the shoulders of the consumer.
That's you and me folks!
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